Compliments
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transIn this conversation, I am NirdGerl. The guy in question has asked me to anonymise his part in it because apparently he's a well known freenode staffer and he fears the wrath of the transmafia Doesn't like to leave a papertrail.
<spaceinvader> lol 7chan
<NirdGerl> ?
<spaceinvader> "Post some females with very short hair coz i am gigantic faggot"
<Anon> NirdGerl, this is true, though that does majorly limit the number of people involved. Or whatever I mean.
<NirdGerl> I think if you're a man and the only part of a woman you find attractive is long hair, you're probably gay.
<NirdGerl> Is like the pictures that get posted in the /tg channels of utterly gorgeous preop transsexual women/
<Anon> I assume you mean M->F?
<NirdGerl> Where you've got gorgeous faces, supermodel figures, great breasts, good skin, and in the middle, a flacid little penis.
<NirdGerl> and guys post "OMG, I find this arousing, am I gay!?"
<Anon> that description makes me laugh.
<Anon> fuck, forgot to charge my laptop
<NirdGerl> Frankly they'd have to be gay to NOT be attracted to all the curves of the girls there.
<NirdGerl> Personally I find F->M trans guys very attractive.
<NirdGerl> I have a nude calendar of transsexual men.
<NirdGerl> HAWT.
<Anon> I've seen some very convincing ones.
<NirdGerl> yeah, i think society needs to shift away from that.
<Anon> makes you go "wtfvulva?"
<NirdGerl> No one cares if you find them 'convincing' or not.
<NirdGerl> Although the societal pressure to fit this label is the source of many woes for the early transsexual.
<NirdGerl> if you were talking to a biological woman for an hour or so and slipped in to the conversation "By the way, you really are convincing, you look and sound just like a woman. it's amazing."
<Anon> I'm not saying that transsexuals need to be convincing. I'm just saying that I've seen some who really are.
<NirdGerl> You'd probably get a massive slap.
<NirdGerl> And yet thats the amazing compliment transwomen are meant to work towards.
<NirdGerl> Pf.
<Anon> well, yes, it's far harder for someone who's transsexual to look just like a biological member of the gender they're switching to than it is for someone who, well, is a biological member of it.
<NirdGerl> I still think the average transwoman would rather be told they were pretty.
<Anon> I'm sure they would, I'm not saying it as a compliment to the people, I'm pointing out an observation that I've seen some very convincing F->M people.
<NirdGerl> I'm explaining how that's a bad attitude with which to approach the topic.
<Anon> I'm not gay. I'm not able to comment on how good a guy looks. Guys just look like guys to me.
<NirdGerl> hmmm.. Never thought of it like that.
<NirdGerl> Being bisexual I sometimes forget that there are people out there who can't appreciate the appeal of either sex.
<NirdGerl> Anon, can i post a transcript of this to my blog, to get a wider opinion?
<Anon> sure
So... opinions?
<spaceinvader> lol 7chan
<NirdGerl> ?
<spaceinvader> "Post some females with very short hair coz i am gigantic faggot"
<Anon> NirdGerl, this is true, though that does majorly limit the number of people involved. Or whatever I mean.
<NirdGerl> I think if you're a man and the only part of a woman you find attractive is long hair, you're probably gay.
<NirdGerl> Is like the pictures that get posted in the /tg channels of utterly gorgeous preop transsexual women/
<Anon> I assume you mean M->F?
<NirdGerl> Where you've got gorgeous faces, supermodel figures, great breasts, good skin, and in the middle, a flacid little penis.
<NirdGerl> and guys post "OMG, I find this arousing, am I gay!?"
<Anon> that description makes me laugh.
<Anon> fuck, forgot to charge my laptop
<NirdGerl> Frankly they'd have to be gay to NOT be attracted to all the curves of the girls there.
<NirdGerl> Personally I find F->M trans guys very attractive.
<NirdGerl> I have a nude calendar of transsexual men.
<NirdGerl> HAWT.
<Anon> I've seen some very convincing ones.
<NirdGerl> yeah, i think society needs to shift away from that.
<Anon> makes you go "wtfvulva?"
<NirdGerl> No one cares if you find them 'convincing' or not.
<NirdGerl> Although the societal pressure to fit this label is the source of many woes for the early transsexual.
<NirdGerl> if you were talking to a biological woman for an hour or so and slipped in to the conversation "By the way, you really are convincing, you look and sound just like a woman. it's amazing."
<Anon> I'm not saying that transsexuals need to be convincing. I'm just saying that I've seen some who really are.
<NirdGerl> You'd probably get a massive slap.
<NirdGerl> And yet thats the amazing compliment transwomen are meant to work towards.
<NirdGerl> Pf.
<Anon> well, yes, it's far harder for someone who's transsexual to look just like a biological member of the gender they're switching to than it is for someone who, well, is a biological member of it.
<NirdGerl> I still think the average transwoman would rather be told they were pretty.
<Anon> I'm sure they would, I'm not saying it as a compliment to the people, I'm pointing out an observation that I've seen some very convincing F->M people.
<NirdGerl> I'm explaining how that's a bad attitude with which to approach the topic.
<Anon> I'm not gay. I'm not able to comment on how good a guy looks. Guys just look like guys to me.
<NirdGerl> hmmm.. Never thought of it like that.
<NirdGerl> Being bisexual I sometimes forget that there are people out there who can't appreciate the appeal of either sex.
<NirdGerl> Anon, can i post a transcript of this to my blog, to get a wider opinion?
<Anon> sure
So... opinions?